Comments on: The tipping point for Firefox and Ubuntu http://sudhanshuraheja.com/2009/08/the-tipping-point-for-firefox-and-ubuntu/ By Sudhanshu Raheja Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:39:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nix http://sudhanshuraheja.com/2009/08/the-tipping-point-for-firefox-and-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-1602 nix Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:03:03 +0000 http://sudhanshuraheja.com/?p=939#comment-1602 Stumbled into your blog post and I find it quite interesting. Now I have a comment or two; sorry to hear that your Firefox and Ubuntu experience didn't go well. Currently I am using Firefox 3.0.15 on Jaunty and don't see the memory issue. I have 20 tabs open and from top command I can see that I am using 120 of RES memory and for swap I see 254. Same thing can be viewed under Windows from the task manager and adding columns. Realistically a statement like: "And in case you haven’t heard it yet, Windows 7 take up less memory on it’s own that Firefox with 10 tabs!!" is untrue. Windows 7 from MS requires: 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit) http://windows.microsoft.com/systemrequirements That's for the system to boot up. On a couple other notes; in Firefox you can change how Firefox stores data and have it purge or not cache data; also disabling prefetching. Another aspect to take into account Ubuntu uses a kernel knob/tunable called swappiness which keep applications in memory for better response time rather than pushing it out into the hard drive. PS: I haven't made any changes to the way my system works for those numbers. It's a stock install with minor network configurations to speed up page load and render time. O'yeah; I disable prefetch. I enjoy the blog, keep up the good work. Best regards, Nix Stumbled into your blog post and I find it quite interesting. Now I have a comment or two; sorry to hear that your Firefox and Ubuntu experience didn’t go well.

Currently I am using Firefox 3.0.15 on Jaunty and don’t see the memory issue. I have 20 tabs open and from top command I can see that I am using 120 of RES memory and for swap I see 254. Same thing can be viewed under Windows from the task manager and adding columns.

Realistically a statement like:

“And in case you haven’t heard it yet, Windows 7 take up less memory on it’s own that Firefox with 10 tabs!!”

is untrue. Windows 7 from MS requires:
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)

http://windows.microsoft.com/systemrequirements

That’s for the system to boot up. On a couple other notes; in Firefox you can change how Firefox stores data and have it purge or not cache data; also disabling prefetching. Another aspect to take into account Ubuntu uses a kernel knob/tunable called swappiness which keep applications in memory for better response time rather than pushing it out into the hard drive.

PS: I haven’t made any changes to the way my system works for those numbers. It’s a stock install with minor network configurations to speed up page load and render time. O’yeah; I disable prefetch.

I enjoy the blog, keep up the good work.
Best regards,
Nix

]]> By: Allwin http://sudhanshuraheja.com/2009/08/the-tipping-point-for-firefox-and-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-1534 Allwin Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:17:14 +0000 http://sudhanshuraheja.com/?p=939#comment-1534 Damn, time to fix that :D - thanks! Damn, time to fix that :D – thanks!

]]> By: admin http://sudhanshuraheja.com/2009/08/the-tipping-point-for-firefox-and-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-1533 admin Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:59:10 +0000 http://sudhanshuraheja.com/?p=939#comment-1533 Sure does Allwin! I guess it's been quite some time since you checked :) Sure does Allwin! I guess it’s been quite some time since you checked :)

]]> By: Allwin http://sudhanshuraheja.com/2009/08/the-tipping-point-for-firefox-and-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-1532 Allwin Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:37:49 +0000 http://sudhanshuraheja.com/?p=939#comment-1532 Bizspark allows access to Windows 7? Wasn't listed last I checked - has something changed? Bizspark allows access to Windows 7? Wasn’t listed last I checked – has something changed?

]]> By: admin http://sudhanshuraheja.com/2009/08/the-tipping-point-for-firefox-and-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-1531 admin Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:25:33 +0000 http://sudhanshuraheja.com/?p=939#comment-1531 That's really strange. I never knew Chrome could do that. Will definitely try to check up on it! About moving to windows, you can always run Ubuntu inside a VirtualBox. We've not had any problems using it, at least not yet. And I doubt there are any Linux platforms which are as easy to work with as Ubuntu. The original Debian is definitely good, but I haven't tried it out in quite some time. Do let me know if you find something interesting there. I'm really missing the terminal :) That’s really strange. I never knew Chrome could do that. Will definitely try to check up on it!

About moving to windows, you can always run Ubuntu inside a VirtualBox. We’ve not had any problems using it, at least not yet.

And I doubt there are any Linux platforms which are as easy to work with as Ubuntu. The original Debian is definitely good, but I haven’t tried it out in quite some time. Do let me know if you find something interesting there. I’m really missing the terminal :)

]]> By: Marvin http://sudhanshuraheja.com/2009/08/the-tipping-point-for-firefox-and-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-1529 Marvin Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:49:06 +0000 http://sudhanshuraheja.com/?p=939#comment-1529 I agree that Ubuntu has gone downhill since v 7.1. However, there's no way I'd switch to Windows from here - perhaps another Linux distribution? There are a ton to choose from. Straight Debian (on which Ubuntu is based) is a great choice. WIndows just isn't an alternative for me - it's lacking so many programs I need for my workflow, just basic tools and such. I love Chrome, but I stopped using it when out of nowhere, a program automatically downloaded a trojaned PDF. ??? It seems Chrome allows downloads without user approval. Of course, this wasn't a problem, since I was using Linux - but I still can't tell what site the file came from. It just appeared out of nowhere - all of sudden the big blue arrow indicating a file download. The only sites I was at in Chrome were jquery, php.net and Etsy.com... I don't think they have been hacked. SO, I'm scared of Chrome now. I agree that Ubuntu has gone downhill since v 7.1.

However, there’s no way I’d switch to Windows from here – perhaps another Linux distribution? There are a ton to choose from. Straight Debian (on which Ubuntu is based) is a great choice. WIndows just isn’t an alternative for me – it’s lacking so many programs I need for my workflow, just basic tools and such.

I love Chrome, but I stopped using it when out of nowhere, a program automatically downloaded a trojaned PDF. ??? It seems Chrome allows downloads without user approval. Of course, this wasn’t a problem, since I was using Linux – but I still can’t tell what site the file came from. It just appeared out of nowhere – all of sudden the big blue arrow indicating a file download. The only sites I was at in Chrome were jquery, php.net and Etsy.com… I don’t think they have been hacked. SO, I’m scared of Chrome now.

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